Revealing more of The Lamb Who Was Slain #Discipleship #Jesus Christ (thethirdheaventraveler.com)
The question is: Jesus Christ’s existence in Heaven while he existed on Earth.Contrary to conventional wisdom, philosophy and the vain imagination of man, which is not based upon Jesus Christ, there was NO preincarnate Jesus but rather Jesus has eternally existed as the visible image of God. The Creator walking with the same exact features of man.Reading Proverbs 8:22 The Lord possessed me in the beginning of his way, before his works of old.23 I was set up from everlasting, from the beginning, or ever the earth was.WISDOM IS Jesus Christ embodied.Philosophy is Man’s wisdom and NOT after Christ (Colossians 2:8)
1 Corinthians 1:21-31
21For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe.
22 For the Jews require a sign, and the Greeks seek after wisdom:
23 But we preach Christ crucified, unto the Jews a stumblingblock, and unto the Greeks foolishness;
24 But unto them which are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God, and the wisdom of God.
25 Because the foolishness of God is wiser than men; and the weakness of God is stronger than men.
26 For ye see your calling, brethren, how that not many wise men after the flesh, not many mighty, not many noble, are called:
27 But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise; and God hath chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things which are mighty;
28 And base things of the world, and things which are despised, hath God chosen, yea, and things which are not, to bring to nought things that are:
29 That no flesh should glory in his presence.
30 But of him are ye in Christ Jesus, who of God is made unto us wisdom, and righteousness, and sanctification, and redemption:
31 That, according as it is written, He that glorieth, let him glory in the Lord.
Ephesians 1:17
That the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give unto you the spirit of wisdom and revelation in the knowledge of him:
We pray the reader of this work “might be filled with the knowledge of God’s will in all wisdom and spiritual understanding, ” in accordance with Colossians 1:9.
Since the 2nd century the concept of the trinity and not the biblical Godhead has crept into the church and is now mainstream false doctrine in the apostate church of the Laodiceans.
As part of the Trinity pagan practice, this concept of three offices of Jesus is now accepted by academia and taught as doctrine. These offices are: 1. The preincarnate Jesus, 2. The son of man walking on earth, and 3. The Risen Jesus in his glorified body with the nail print scars.
See note 1 below from bible scholar 3 offices of Christ by Trinitarian scholar Bill Wenstrom titled: “Great High Priesthood of the Lord Jesus Christ.
In this study we will provide biblical evidence that Jesus Christ is the ONLY PERSON of the Godhead and is the ONLY God that has existed for all eternity.
When the time arrived Jesus Christ literally brought forth himself as the son of man in the womb of the virgin. He formed, conceived * (conceived: to be created or formed in the womb. Oxford English Dictionary page 500) created – brought forth himself as the son of man in the womb of the virgin TO BE BORN FROM THE WOMAN OF A WOMAN. The word became (become, (be= make or cause) (come = to happen to occur) flesh. In Matthew 1:20 for “conceived” G1080 in context is “bring forth” is conceived in Colossians 1:15 – “firstborn” of every creature.
Looking at Isaiah 53:1 we see the question of who will believe what Jesus Christ has revealed since the foundation of the world.
The question is presented to all mankind from the beginning of creation to the end of time.
And who will believe what?
Answer: What Jesus Christ revealed by bringing himself to be born of the Virgin; i.e., bringing himself forth from the womb.
53 Who hath believed our report? and to whom is the arm of the Lord revealed?
2 For he shall grow up before him as a tender plant, and as a root out of a dry ground: he hath no form nor comeliness; and when we shall see him, there is no beauty that we should desire him.
3 He is despised and rejected of men; a man of sorrows, and acquainted with grief: and we hid as it were our faces from him; he was despised, and we esteemed him not.
4 Surely he hath borne our griefs, and carried our sorrows: yet we did esteem him stricken, smitten of God, and afflicted.
5 But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed.
6 All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the Lord hath laid on him the iniquity of us all.
7 He was oppressed, and he was afflicted, yet he opened not his mouth: he is brought as a lamb to the slaughter, and as a sheep before her shearers is dumb, so he openeth not his mouth.
8 He was taken from prison and from judgment: and who shall declare his generation? for he was cut off out of the land of the living: for the transgression of my people was he stricken.
9 And he made his grave with the wicked, and with the rich in his death; because he had done no violence, neither was any deceit in his mouth.
10 Yet it pleased the Lord to bruise him; he hath put him to grief: when thou shalt make his soul an offering for sin, he shall see his seed, he shall prolong his days, and the pleasure of the Lord shall prosper in his hand.
11 He shall see of the travail of his soul, and shall be satisfied: by his knowledge shall my righteous servant justify many; for he shall bear their iniquities.
12 Therefore will I divide him a portion with the great, and he shall divide the spoil with the strong; because he hath poured out his soul unto death: and he was numbered with the transgressors; and he bare the sin of many, and made intercession for the transgressors.
Psalm 80:15-18 KJV
And the vineyard which thy right hand hath planted, and the branch that thou madest strong for thyself. [16] It is burned with fire, it is cut down: they perish at the rebuke of thy countenance. [17] Let thy hand be upon the man of thy right hand, upon the son of man whom thou madest strong for thyself. [18]
And most profoundly in Revelation as the Lamb who was slain.
Jesus’ nail print hands, feet the wound in his side.
The Lamb who was slain.
Revelation 7:9–10, 17; 22:1, 3.
Revelation 5:6, Jesus is referred to (27 more times) as “the Lamb.” Heaven’s worshipers fall down before him, saying, “Worthy is the Lamb who was slain!” (Revelation 5:12), and the book of life is said to be “the book of life of the Lamb who was slain” Revelation 13:8; also 21:27.
Jesus Christ is the image of the invisible God – the FIRSTBORN of every creature that has existed for all eternity. He is the fullness of the Godhead BODILY. There is only ONE PERSON not 3 in the Biblical Godhead. The Trinity concept is NOT Biblical doctrine but rather man’s vain imagination and philosophy of man the Stoic Greek Philosophy carried forward from Philo to Tertulian
Colossians 1:15, 15Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:
Colossians 2:8,9. 8Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ. 9For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.
Psalm 10:4 4The wicked, through the pride of his countenance, will not seek after God: God is not in all his thoughts.
Pslam 50:21 21These things hast thou done, and I kept silence; thou thoughtest that I was altogether such an one as thyself: but I will reprove thee, and set them in order before thine eyes. 22Now consider this, ye that forget God, lest I tear you in pieces, and there be none to deliver. 23Whoso offereth praise glorifieth me: and to him that ordereth his conversation aright will I shew the salvation of God.
Jesus was fully God (John 1:1), but He was also fully man (John 1:14).
Jesus Christ is the second Adam – the last Adam according to scripture, born from heaven, whereas the first Adam humanities DNA came from the earth – literally dirt.
1 Corinthians 15:45-49.
We read:
1 Corinthians 15:45-49
King James Version
45 And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit.
46 Howbeit that was not first which is spiritual, but that which is natural; and afterward that which is spiritual.
47 The first man is of the earth, earthy; the second man is the Lord from heaven.
48 As is the earthy, such are they also that are earthy: and as is the heavenly, such are they also that are heavenly.
49 And as we have borne the image of the earthy, we shall also bear the image of the heavenly.
If we’re truly honest with ourselves and have adequately studied these aforementioned scriptures, it is obvious that Jesus Christ is eternally existing as the FIRST BORN of every creature and since Jesus Christ is GOD and was NOT CREATED but has existed, he has existed always as creating himself in the womb of a virgin in time eternal before the CONCEPTION of himself actually took place. This is difficult to imagine since our minds are finite. But in the Spiritual world TIME is far beyond our 3 dimensional realm.
Jesus Christ formed, conceived * (conceived: to be created or formed in the womb. Oxford English Dictionary page 500) created – brought forth himself as the son of man in the womb of the virgin TO BE BORN FROM THE WOMAN OF A WOMAN. The word became (become, (be= make or cause) (come = to happen to occur) flesh. In Matthew 1:20 for “conceived” G1080 in context is “bring forth” is conceived in Colossians 1:15 – “firstborn” of every creature.
* CONCEIVED. (Which is conceived in Matthew 1:20).
When examined, the word conceive means literally to introduce seed (sperm) into the female egg cell, ovum. However, in the context of scripture further analysis reveals the secondary meaning of conceive as described in the hard copy Oxford English dictionary page 500 as: “to be created or formed in the womb.” And comparing scripture with scripture we see G1080 means to BRING FORTH, BORN FROM THE WOMB. figuratively to regenerate:—bear, beget, be born, bring forth, conceive, be delivered of, gender, make, spring.
Immanuel: God is with us.
He MADE HIMSELF of no reputation, and took upon him the FORM OF A SERVANT, and was MADE IN THE LIKENESS OF MEN. And being found in FASHION AS A MAN, Philippians 2:6,7.
Form:Image, representation or likeness of a body, A body considered in respect to its outward shape and appearance, especially that of a living being, a person.
Fashion: Visible characteristics and appearance Page 965 Oxford English Dictionary
Likeness: Resemblance, in the shape, form semblance, copy, one who closely resembles another Oxford English Dictionary page 1625.
And it …”behoved him to be MADE LIKE UNTO His brethren. Hebrews 2:17
Meaning of behoved: To require; Be necessary to be of physical use… Oxford English page 194.
Meaning of made like unto: the word “unto” is used only in the King James Bible. This literally means Jesus Was made to RESEMBLE MAN. See Paragraph 18. Page 3550 Hard Copy Oxford English Dictionary.
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Isaiah 65:9 And I will bring forth a seed out of Jacob, and out of Judah an inheritor of my mountains: and mine elect shall inherit it, and my servants shall dwell there.
If the word conceive when used in context is supposed to mean a union of any kind took place to form Jesus within the womb, why not use the word #G1085 : G1085; to procreate (properly of the father, but by extension of the mother);. —Strong’s (Greek Dictionary of the New Testament)
Daniel 7:13 KJV
I saw in the night visions, and, behold, one like the Son of man came with the clouds of heaven, and came to the Ancient of days, and they brought him near before him.
Scriptures Son of man in the Old Testament.
However this is not the word God used in the scriptures. We see the same examples in other scriptures throughout the old and New Testament. See the following examples.
The hebrew word used in Isaiah 7:14 is #2030 coming from the word #2029 meaning pregnant , however this is not the word that is used here, # 2030 means to be with child as stated on Matthew 1:23
#G4815 means to aid, catch, conceive, help, take. This comes from the root word #4862 which is the word used to denote a union to conceive, this is NOT the word used in Luke 1:31 G#4815:
JUST AS JESUS CHRIST BROUGHT HIMSELF THROUGH THE WOMB SO HE SAYS MY ARM BROUGHT SALVATION…. ISAIAH 59:16
And he saw there was no man therefore HIS ARM BROUGHT SALVATION.
Genesis 1:20 And God said, Let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that hath life, and fowl that may fly above the earth in the open firmament of heaven.
21 And God created great whales, and every living creature that moveth, which the waters brought forth abundantly, after their kind, and every winged fowl after his kind: and God saw that it was good.
It is By the water of the washing of the word, Jesus is the Living Water, He is the Living Word who became flesh thru the water by the blood, a two fold purpose to bring Salvation, For only His arm could bring salvation for the curse of the law. The only sacrificial unblemished Lamb of God, in the fashion of a man came once to die for mankind to establish His order on earth, for as is done in Heaven so it shall be done in earth
Phil 2 7,8 But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men: 8 And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.
4976 sxma – properly, exterior shape (form); (figuratively) the outer “shape” (manner, appearance).
OXFORD: page 1059 The arrangement of parts; same configuration. In context: fingers, hands, nose etc.
Mary had The Child – Jesus Christ – in her womb, for He must come from water for the sanctification of the inner man and through the Blood to glorify God in Atonement of the outward man, the Sacrificial Lamb.
1 Peter 1:23 Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever. AMEN!!!
Form = to construct, to bring into existence, produce.
Jeremiah 1:5 – Before I formed you in the womb I knew you.
H3335 = yatsar – at conception.
Matthew 1:20
20 But while he thought on these things, behold, the angel of the Lord appeared unto him in a dream, saying, Joseph, thou son of David, fear not to take unto thee Mary thy wife: for that which is conceived in her is of the Holy Ghost.
John 1:1 1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
John 3:13 And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven.
John 6:38 For I came down from heaven, not to do mine own will, but the will of him that sent me.
John 6:42 And they said, Is not this Jesus, the son of Joseph, whose father and mother we know? how is it then that he saith, I came down from heaven?
1 John 4:1-4
Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.
2Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:
3And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.
4Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world.
1 John 5:5-10
5 Who is he that overcometh the world, but he that believeth that Jesus is the Son of God? 6This is he that came by water and blood, even Jesus Christ; not by water only, but by water and blood. And it is the Spirit that beareth witness, because the Spirit is truth. 7For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. 8And there are three that bear witness in earth, the spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one.
9If we receive the witness of men, the witness of God is greater: for this is the witness of God which he hath testified of his Son. 10He that believeth on the Son of God hath the witness in himself: he that believeth not God hath made him a liar; because he believeth not the record that God gave of his Son. 11And this is the record, that God hath given to us eternal life, and this life is in his Son. 12He that hath the Son hath life; and he that hath not the Son of God hath not life.
The Only Begotten Son.
To understand the significance of John 3:16 King James please read ONLY BEGOTTEN by John Hinton:
Ridiculous KJV Bible Corrections – John 3:16, Only Begotten (av1611.com)
Excerpt:
John 3:16 is quoted more than any other verse in the Bible, at least by Christians and other church-goers. There may be no verse that is more frequently perverted than this one, but most people still know the full verse as presented by the KJV. Why then, is it so hard to find the word ‘begotten’ in other versions? The word in question is ‘monogenes’. This is a compound of two words monos and genes, the latter being drawn from the verb genao, which means to beget or cause to be produced. Monos means only or single, as is clear by its many appearances in English, such as monotony, monopoly, monotone, etc. Genao has come into the English language as well in words like generation, genesis, genes, generate, and so forth. The two words together mean only-begotten! It could not possibly mean anything else. In spite of this obvious, uncontestable, and invariable meaning, it is perverted with great frequency. The perversion of this verse appears to have begun, not with Christians, but with Gnostics in Egypt. These Gnostics not only denied the nature of Christ, but rewrote much of the New Testament in order to pervert the truth. These Gnostics had to lie through their teeth in order to suggest that the second half of this compound word did not count. Followers of the Alexandrian heresies, such as today’s New Age Bible version translators, being unconcerned with integrity, were more than happy to follow the Gnostic lead. It should be noted that the Gnostics did not even speak Greek as a native language. Their language was Coptic, which is about as close to Greek as Turkish is to Arabic. This means that it is less close to Greek than English is to Polish. Coptic adopted and adapted the Greek for their form of Egyptian, and borrowed many New Testament Greek words, just as Turkish borrowed the Arabic alphabet (until modern times) and many vocabulary words, as did Malaysian, Swahili, Farsi, Urdu, and many other unrelated languages, but this makes for only the most superficial comparisons. In both cases this is as far as the similarities go. Their language families are unconnected and their grammars are entirely dissimilar. Why on earth would anyone with a half a lick of sense accept a nonsensical definition of a Greek word by heretical, non-Christian Coptic speakers for a Greek word that is completely clear in its meaning to start with?
The ASV was not bold enough to pervert this verse, but the RSV and almost every modern version since has done so.
RSV For God so loved the world that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life.
NIV: For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.
This is not the only place where only begotten son is changed to only son. The modern versions do the same thing in the following verses.
John 1:14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.
John 1:18 No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him.
John 3:18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
1John 4:9 In this was manifested the love of God toward us, because that God sent his only begotten Son into the world, that we might live through him
The question is: Jesus Christ’s existence in Heaven while he existed on Earth.
Reading Proverbs 8:22 The Lord possessed me in the beginning of his way, before his works of old.
23 I was set up from everlasting, from the beginning, or ever the earth was.
WISDOM is Jesus Christ embodied. Philosophy is Man’s wisdom and NOT after Christ (Colossians 2:8)
1 John 5:5-10
5 Who is he that overcometh the world, but he that believeth that Jesus is the Son of God? 6This is he that came by water and blood, even Jesus Christ; not by water only, but by water and blood. And it is the Spirit that beareth witness, because the Spirit is truth. 7For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. 8And there are three that bear witness in earth, the spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one.
9If we receive the witness of men, the witness of God is greater: for this is the witness of God which he hath testified of his Son. 10He that believeth on the Son of God hath the witness in himself: he that believeth not God hath made him a liar; because he believeth not the record that God gave of his Son. 11And this is the record, that God hath given to us eternal life, and this life is in his Son. 12He that hath the Son hath life; and he that hath not the Son of God hath not life.
The LAST ADAM – Jesus Christ was literally a NEW CREATION apart from the First Adam which ended in the FALL.
1 John 2:24 Let that therefore abide in you, which ye have heard from the beginning. If that which ye have heard from the beginning shall remain in you, ye also shall continue in the Son, and in the Father. 27 But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.
28 And now, little children, abide in him; that, when he shall appear, we may have confidence, and not be ashamed before him at his coming.
For further study read: Galatians 4:6, Hebrews chapter 1 and chapter 9.
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