These proponents both are preaching a false Gospel; i.e., teaching that the age of the earth is essential to faith and ultimately in salvation. Yes, looking very deeply into their mountains of seemingly wonderful material, they are making this the paramount of what Christians focus on. And when they do throw in Jesus and salvation they are not focused on or use 1 Corinthians 15:1-4. They also use perverted Bible translations in their scripture and even quote Septuagint in their work. Please see my study on Bible Translations matter and or read “Final Authority” by Dr. Grady to really understand the evil behind using corrupt Bible translations.
Additionally they both lie in attacking the GAP THEORY and completely overlook the gap of time between Genesis 1:1 and 1:3 which very well could account for millions of years before the creation of heaven and earth from the beginning of creation “as we know it” which is 6,000 years old. Instead they call Christians who study this as “evolutionists”.
But frankly speaking, who really cares? Is this essential doctrine? No! Why didn’t the Pauline Epistles – written directly for the church age get into a heady discussion of the age of the earth? Because Paul clearly tells us that we’re not to get into foolish discussions on matters that are not essential. Read 2 Timothy 2:23 KJV
Because I home school, I want to give my child the absolute best education focusing on the foundation which is the Word of God and I also teach my child Science. When I was using some of ICR and AIG s material, I was concerned with what seems to me to center on the question of the Gap Theory.
Here’s my findings:
There are several glaring issues with both “Answers in Genesis . Org” and their accomplices at “Institute for Creation Research”
Here are a few links exposing both of them.
Inst. for Creation Research (ICR)
Ecumenism Under the Umbrella of Creation Science –
– ICR for years had maintained a unique combination of scholarly creation science credentials along with solid Biblical positions on the issues of the day. Over time, however, ICR has become more and more ecumenical, neo-evangelical, and psychological.
ICR use their psuedo creation science and equate it with essential doctrine. They also use perverted Bible translations.
Answers in Genesis Ken Ham (AIG)
As far as Ken Ham and the tragic accusations of purported abuse amounting to white slavery of former workers building his “ark project” it’s a matter probably worth looking into further. But the main contention with Ken Ham and his organization are equating his psuedo creation science with the gospel of Jesus Christ and when Ham does use gospel he misquotes Romans chapter 10 as the gospel (confessing with your mouth) vs 1 Corinthians 15:1-4KJV. Also Ken Ham uses perverted Bible translations as does ICR. Ken Ham is also found in interviews (see link below) to say out of one side of his mouth that the age of the earth is not essential doctrine and then the other side of his mouth that it is essential and mixes in confusion that if a Christian believes the universe could possibly be millions of years old they are not a true Christian (not saved).
Birds of a feather: It’s also interesting that Ken Ham cut his teeth on Creationism from Henry Morris at ICR in 1986.
A few other observations:
Theologian Dr. Edmund Anderson in his book, “They Heresy of Ham” quote:
“The Heresy of Ham is the taking of what has always been a secondary issue within the Church, and claiming that it is now the foundational cornerstone to the entire Christian faith. That is the warning I wish to convey in this book. Young earth creationists like Ken Ham are not merely saying, “We believe the earth is 6,000 years old, and we believe there really was a worldwide flood, and here’s why.” They are saying, “If you question us, then you are mocking God and undermining the authority of the Bible.” …But I want one thing to be clear: the modern young earth creationist movement, of which Ken Ham is the most well-known figure, is not scientific, is not biblical, and has made claims that have never been held in Church history.”
Daryl Domning, professor of anatomy at Howard University, held his chin and shook his head at several points during the tour. (of the Ark Museum in Kentucky)
“This bothers me as a scientist and as a Christian, because it’s just as much a distortion and misrepresentation of Christianity as it is of science,” he said.
Now on to the Gap Theory:
https://answersingenesis.org/genesis/gap-theory/what-about-the-gap-and-ruin-reconstruction-theories/ Following is my response to Answering Genesis
AIG in black, my comments in red.
Problems with the Gap Theory
Believing in the gap theory presents a number of problems and inconsistencies, especially for a Christian.
It is inconsistent with God creating everything in six days, as Scripture states. Exodus 20:11 says, “For in six days the Lord made the heavens and earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and rested the seventh day. Therefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath day, and hallowed it.” Thus the creation of the heavens and the earth (Genesis 1:1) and the sea and all that is in them (the rest of the creation) was completed in six days.15 Is there any time for a gap?
No it is not. From the beginning your theory (a theory is a belief or an idea that used to account for a situation – which is humorous that you use the Gap Theory as theory but you use your teaching as Bible Based Fact.) is flawed in that you say everything is created and completed in six days which is was but you fail to realize that in the beginning God did create and heaven and the earth, Genesis 1:1. – GAP – In Genesis 1:2 it is clear: that he is now looking at the original creation with what? With the earth that was without form and void, and darkness was upon the face of the deep. Then in Genesis 1:3 Creation as we know it begins:
It is clear that this “original” heaven and earth he had created who knows how many years before Genesis 1;3. God did NOT begin with nothing. God began creation in Genesis 1:3 with an earth that was without form and void.
It puts death, disease, and suffering before the Fall, contrary to Scripture. Romans 5:12 says, “Therefore, just as through one man [Adam] sin entered the world, and death through sin, and thus death spread to all men, because all sinned.” From this we understand that there could not have been human sin or death before Adam. The Bible teaches in 1 Corinthians 15 that Adam was the first man, and as a result of his rebellion (sin), death and corruption (disease, bloodshed, and suffering) entered the universe. Before Adam sinned, there could not have been any animal (nephesh16) or human death. Note also that there could not have been a race of men before Adam that died in Lucifer’s flood because 1 Corinthians 15:45 tells us that Adam was the first man.
Genesis 1:29–30 teaches us that animals and man were originally created to eat plants, which is consistent with God’s description of His creation as “very good.” But how could a fossil record, which gives evidence of disease, violence, death, and decay (fossils have been found of animals apparently fighting and certainly eating each other), be described as “very good”? For this to be true, the death of billions of animals (and many humans) as seen in the fossil record must have occurred after Adam’s sin. The historical event of the global Flood, recorded in Genesis, explains the presence of huge numbers of dead animals buried in rock layers, laid down by water all over the earth.
Romans 8:22 teaches that “the whole creation groans and travails in pain together until now.” Clearly the whole of creation was, and is, subject to decay and corruption because of sin. When gap theorists believe that disease, decay, and death existed before Adam sinned, they ignore that this contradicts the teaching of Scripture.17 The version of the gap theory that puts Satan’s fall at the end of the geological ages, just before the supposed Lucifer’s flood that destroyed all pre-Adamic life, has a further problem—the death and suffering recorded in the fossils must have been God’s fault. Since it happened before Satan’s fall, Satan and sin cannot be blamed for it.18
No it doesn’t. You’re using a tactic of using absolute truth to dispute a matter that goes against your truth. The Gap theory does not presuppose that death, disease and suffering existed before the fall. The Gap theory properly accounts for the fall of Lucifer “BEFORE” The creation. Read your Bible, ALL of your Bible and learn how to rightly divide the word of truth (2 Timothy 2:15 KJV) and not throw in your own cocktail of deceit to unlearned Christians.
The gap theory is logically inconsistent because it explains away what it is supposed to accommodate—supposed evidence for an old earth. Gap theorists accept that the earth is very old—a belief based on geologic evidence interpreted with the assumption that the present is the key to the past. This assumption implies that in the past sediments containing fossils formed at basically the same rate as they do today. This process is also used by most geologists and biologists to justify belief that the geologic column represents billions of years of earth history. This geologic column has become the showcase of evolution because the fossils are claimed to show ascent from simple to complex life-forms.
This places gap theorists in a dilemma. Committed to literal creation because of their acceptance of a literal view of Genesis, they cannot accept the conclusions of evolution based on the geologic column. Nor can they accept that the days in the Genesis record correspond to geologic periods. So they propose that God reshaped the earth and re-created all life in six literal days after Lucifer’s flood (which produced the fossils); hence the name “ruin-reconstruction.” Satan’s sin supposedly caused this flood, and the resulting judgment upon that sin reduced the previous world to a state of being “without form and void.”
What are you going to do with Christians like me who are both educated and who believe the Bible is the inerrant word of God and that Genesis 1-11 is to be taken “LITERALLY’? And with Christians like me who actually read and study their Bible. Read carefully and see that God did NOT begin the creation from NOTHING. It is very clear in Genesis 1:1 – 1:3 That God started with a world that was nothing but a mass of chaotic dark and void. Open your blind eyes.
While the gap theorist may think Lucifer’s flood solves the problem of life before God’s creation recorded in Genesis 1:2 and following, it actually removes the reason for the theory in the first place. If all, or most, of the sediments and fossils were produced quickly in one massive worldwide Lucifer’s flood, then the main evidence that the earth is extremely old no longer exists, because the age of the earth is based on the assumed slow formation of earth’s sediments.
Also, if the world was reduced to a shapeless, chaotic mess, as gap theorists propose, how could a reasonably ordered assemblage of fossils and sediments remain as evidence? Surely with such chaos the fossil record would have been severely disrupted, if not entirely destroyed. This argument also applies to those who say the fossil record formed over hundreds of millions of years before this so-called Lucifer’s flood, which would have severely rearranged things.
The gap theory does away with the evidence for the historical event of the global Flood. If the fossil record was formed by Lucifer’s flood, then what did the global Flood of Noah’s day do? On this point the gap theorist is forced to conclude that the global Flood must have left virtually no trace. To be consistent, the gap theorist would also have to defend that the global Flood was a local event. Custance, one of the major proponents of the gap theory, did just that, and he even published a paper defending a local flood.19 Genesis, however, depicts the global Flood as a judgment for man’s sin (Genesis 6). Water flooded the earth for over a year (Genesis 6:17, 7:19–24) and only eight people, along with two of every kind (and seven of some) of air-breathing, land-dwelling animal survived (Genesis 7:23). It is more consistent with the whole framework of Scripture to attribute most fossils to the global Flood of Noah’s day rather than to resort to a strained interpretation of the fall of Satan20 and a totally speculative catastrophe that contributes nothing to biblical understanding or to science.
Sadly, in relegating the fossil record to the supposed gap, gappists have removed the evidence of God’s judgment in the Flood, which is the basis for God’s warning of judgment to come (2 Peter 3:2–14).
What are you talking about? I believe there was a flood in accordance with Genesis 6, 7. I don’t believe in anything you’re saying that Gap Theory believes in. However, I strongly believe there was a gap of time of possibly millions of years between the fall of Satan and creation. Who really knows how many years? Does it really matter? No it doesn’t.
The gap theorist ignores the evidence for a young earth. The true gap theorist also ignores evidence consistent with an earth fewer than 10,000 years of age. There is much evidence for this—the decay and rapid reversals of the earth’s magnetic field, the amount of salt in the oceans, the wind-up of spiral galaxies, and much more.21
Yes! Absolutely! I ignore your “theory” that the earth and universe are 10,000 years old. And even more importantly… IF the earth and universe were 10,000 years old or 1 Billion 1 Trillion years old, does it really matter? Answer: No it does not! Otherwise this would clearly have been made “perfectly” clear in both the old testament and in the new testament and even more abundantly clear in the Epistles.
The gap theory fails to accommodate standard uniformitarian geology with its long ages. Today’s uniformitarian geologists allow for no worldwide flood of any kind—the imaginary Lucifer’s flood or the historical Flood of Noah’s day. They also recognize no break between the supposed former created world and the current recreated world.
I do not deny the true biblical account of the flood. Stop mixing this issue into the Gap issue of Genesis 1:1-3.!!!
Most importantly, the gap theory undermines the gospel at its foundations. By accepting an ancient age for the earth (based on the standard uniformitarian interpretation of the geologic column), gap theorists leave the evolutionary system intact (which by their own assumptions they oppose).
Even worse, they must also theorize that Romans 5:12 and Genesis 3:3 refer only to spiritual death. But this contradicts other scriptures, such as 1 Corinthians 15 and Genesis 3:22–23. These passages tell us that Adam’s sin led to physical death, as well as spiritual death. In 1 Corinthians 15 the death of the Last Adam (the Lord Jesus Christ) is compared with the death of the first Adam. Jesus suffered physical death for man’s sin, because Adam, the first man, died physically because of sin.
In cursing man with physical death, God also provided a way to redeem man through the person of His Son Jesus Christ, who suffered the curse of death on the Cross for us.
He tasted “death for everyone” according to Hebrews 2:9. He took the penalty that should rightly have been ours at the hands of the Righteous Judge, and bore it in His own body on the Cross. Jesus Christ tasted death for all mankind, and He defeated death when He rose from the grave three days later. Men can be free from eternal death in hell if they believe in Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior. They then are received back to God to spend eternity with Him. That is the message of Christianity.
To believe there was death before Adam’s sin destroys the basis of the Christian message. The Bible states that man’s rebellious actions led to death and the corruption of the universe, but the gap theory undermines the reason that man needs a Savior.
HERE YOU GO MIXING IN TRUTH WITH YOUR CREATION SCIENCE AS THE GOSPEL . Interesting that in many interviews exposed in link above that you fail to even mention 1 Corinthians 15 and even here you completely fail to really tell the reader what 1 Corinthians 15 is all about which is the true Gospel. It is also interesting that you lie about how we “Gap Theorists” that Romans 5:12 and Genesis 3:3 refer to only spiritual death. This is a perfect example of how misguided you are. Romans 5:12 and Genesis 3:3 are both Spiritual death which obviously leads to physical death.